What we say in vedanta is universe is of names and forms and behind names and forms is the reality.
Here it assumes that the thing with name and form whatever it may be is at first , we already know it.
Honestly we dont know anything. When we say any word, we only say the word, and know its meaning, but what is it? Do we have a word for what it is?
For eg: When we say tree, we know the tree form and trees function, but what is tree, then we get another word wood, what is wood we get another word cellulose, we keep on going into further names and forms, maybe atoms, then even smaller we say protons, even smaller then bosons, then we are simply limited by how much we can measure smallness.
Hence we never ever really know what the tree IS.
We have a word for anythings form, and its name and its meaning, which indicates its function, but do we have a means of knowledge for the very thing itself.
We DO have some vedantic words, such as truth. Or existence. Of course tree exists. Lets look at the same sentence differently, can we say existence has treeness. ;)
We also have another vedantic word, jnanam, the truth of a known thing or of the knower.
A tree is a known thing. A flower is a known thing. But when we say tree or flower, we arent talking about the thing itself, rather we are talking about name and form of the thing.
Mere presence, itself, the universe itself, the thing itself, the reality itself, that which IS itself, for that which IS itself, we dont seem to have a word, but shAstra gives a word. Shastra calls it brahman, the non dual, that which is all, that which has various names and forms saguna brahman or ishvara.
But that which has a name and form is itself free from all names and forms, such as a clay is free of potness or mugness or jugness. hence truly speaking it is nirguna brahman.
Same way as that which IS, is free,That which I am is free.After I am also is a name and form and function w.r.t body mind.
I am free from all names and forms, from my own body mind.
In fact I am the truth of all things, that are called with a name and a form or just a name and a function. I am brahman which is ishvara.
It appears to be hidden, only due to ignorance, only ignorance can hide ishvara. What is here is ishvara, then how it can be hidden, only way is for someone to say I dont know what it is.
That I dont know alone can hide it as though. I dont know makes the person say, It is, but what is it?
The knowledge reveals that the It and the searcher are one and the same
The seeker is what is sought.
Here it assumes that the thing with name and form whatever it may be is at first , we already know it.
Honestly we dont know anything. When we say any word, we only say the word, and know its meaning, but what is it? Do we have a word for what it is?
For eg: When we say tree, we know the tree form and trees function, but what is tree, then we get another word wood, what is wood we get another word cellulose, we keep on going into further names and forms, maybe atoms, then even smaller we say protons, even smaller then bosons, then we are simply limited by how much we can measure smallness.
Hence we never ever really know what the tree IS.
We have a word for anythings form, and its name and its meaning, which indicates its function, but do we have a means of knowledge for the very thing itself.
We DO have some vedantic words, such as truth. Or existence. Of course tree exists. Lets look at the same sentence differently, can we say existence has treeness. ;)
We also have another vedantic word, jnanam, the truth of a known thing or of the knower.
A tree is a known thing. A flower is a known thing. But when we say tree or flower, we arent talking about the thing itself, rather we are talking about name and form of the thing.
Mere presence, itself, the universe itself, the thing itself, the reality itself, that which IS itself, for that which IS itself, we dont seem to have a word, but shAstra gives a word. Shastra calls it brahman, the non dual, that which is all, that which has various names and forms saguna brahman or ishvara.
But that which has a name and form is itself free from all names and forms, such as a clay is free of potness or mugness or jugness. hence truly speaking it is nirguna brahman.
Same way as that which IS, is free,That which I am is free.After I am also is a name and form and function w.r.t body mind.
I am free from all names and forms, from my own body mind.
In fact I am the truth of all things, that are called with a name and a form or just a name and a function. I am brahman which is ishvara.
It appears to be hidden, only due to ignorance, only ignorance can hide ishvara. What is here is ishvara, then how it can be hidden, only way is for someone to say I dont know what it is.
That I dont know alone can hide it as though. I dont know makes the person say, It is, but what is it?
The knowledge reveals that the It and the searcher are one and the same
The seeker is what is sought.