P: It may be that I am aware of discrete thoughts. But my experience is that of continuity. There is a continuity that I experience. And that is the experience of time. And Space.
V: Have you studied time and space?
P: Of course. We have time and space as a continuum, the universe has space time continuum. So the experience of space time is continous, unlike thoughts that are discrete.
V: How can you say that. Only when you experience an object do you experience space time. You never experience space time independent of an object experience. Do you ever?
P: Hmm. Yes independent of object experience there isnt space time experience. But perhaps in between two thoughts , there is an experience isnt it?
V: Experience entails thought. Thought entails object. Along with object awareness, there is also space time awareness imbued in the object awareness. But object awareness is always discrete.
P: Your explanation seems logical with regard to experience. But it is incomplete.
V: Why do you say so?
P: Because it does not explain the continuity I experience . If thoughts are discrete, then I should not have any experience of continuity of thoughts. You are essentially saying that universe is like a an animation book that is flipped quickly one after the other. So per your explanation, I myself become a discrete entity. So perhaps thats the fact. I do not exist at all. There is an appearance of existence, due to one discrete thought after another.
V: You have now come out of physics and ended up becoming a buddhist. This is how buddhist argue that the truth is sunya or nothing. And everything is shanika or momentary. Lord shankara has already done detailed khandanam of this. But let me explain briefly. If you so posit, that existence itself is momentary, how can you ever experience continuity. Since the you who experiences space and time and objects is not the you who had the previous experience. But clearly you remember, I experienced that.
P: Isnt that due to experience of memory?
V: You also say in between two experiences, I am. What is that?
P: Thats perhaps a trick thought.
V: Again you are going back to square one. We had already established that its not due to the thought that you 'know' I am. Knowing is not same as saying. Knowing is , without any thought.
P: I am unable to beat your logic. So let me consider what you are saying to be true. I am, and my existence is not dependent on thoughts. But how does that explain the fact that the thoughts that occur, the objects I see, are interconnected logically. There is cause and effect. It is not random. How is that possible if its all momentary?
V: This is where ishvara walks in.
P: Ishvara? How , who??
TO be contd...
V: Have you studied time and space?
P: Of course. We have time and space as a continuum, the universe has space time continuum. So the experience of space time is continous, unlike thoughts that are discrete.
V: How can you say that. Only when you experience an object do you experience space time. You never experience space time independent of an object experience. Do you ever?
P: Hmm. Yes independent of object experience there isnt space time experience. But perhaps in between two thoughts , there is an experience isnt it?
V: Experience entails thought. Thought entails object. Along with object awareness, there is also space time awareness imbued in the object awareness. But object awareness is always discrete.
P: Your explanation seems logical with regard to experience. But it is incomplete.
V: Why do you say so?
P: Because it does not explain the continuity I experience . If thoughts are discrete, then I should not have any experience of continuity of thoughts. You are essentially saying that universe is like a an animation book that is flipped quickly one after the other. So per your explanation, I myself become a discrete entity. So perhaps thats the fact. I do not exist at all. There is an appearance of existence, due to one discrete thought after another.
V: You have now come out of physics and ended up becoming a buddhist. This is how buddhist argue that the truth is sunya or nothing. And everything is shanika or momentary. Lord shankara has already done detailed khandanam of this. But let me explain briefly. If you so posit, that existence itself is momentary, how can you ever experience continuity. Since the you who experiences space and time and objects is not the you who had the previous experience. But clearly you remember, I experienced that.
P: Isnt that due to experience of memory?
V: You also say in between two experiences, I am. What is that?
P: Thats perhaps a trick thought.
V: Again you are going back to square one. We had already established that its not due to the thought that you 'know' I am. Knowing is not same as saying. Knowing is , without any thought.
P: I am unable to beat your logic. So let me consider what you are saying to be true. I am, and my existence is not dependent on thoughts. But how does that explain the fact that the thoughts that occur, the objects I see, are interconnected logically. There is cause and effect. It is not random. How is that possible if its all momentary?
V: This is where ishvara walks in.
P: Ishvara? How , who??
TO be contd...
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